B-70-25 Box Cars:
SP 692800-693349 (to SP 695165-695334 & SP 696000-696299)
SSW 25000-25383*** (to SSW 49800-49844)
SSW 25384-25583*** (" " " ")
SSW 27715-27814*** (" " " ")
SSW 27815-27836*** (" " " ")
Golden West numbers: GVSR 725000-725003
GVSR 725020-725038
NOTE: It is not clear whether the Golden West cars were from
rebuilt, un-rebuilt or a combination of both cars.
These 50'-2" insulated box cars were built by PC&F in 1965-1966. They featured Hydra-Cushion underframes, 6' and an 8' Youngstown plug doors on each side and 5004 ft3 capacity.
Many of these cars were later rebuilt into B-70-25R class cars
***There seem to be some descrepencies with resepect to these cars on the SP Freight Car Specification Sheets and the ORER's. I will direct you to the following exchange between Jim Eager and Bill Kelly on the Freight Car List:
Bill and Eric, I have SSW 25000-25383 as Plate C, flat-roof class B-70-25 cars built 11-65, but if 27815-27836 are also B-70-25s then there are some serious errors in their dimesions as listed in the ORERs: 10/67 & 1/72 ORER 25000-25383 IW 10-8 EXH 15-4 CUFT 4960 (obviously a Plate C description) 27715-27836 IW 9-10 EXH 15 CUFT 4610 (more like the earlier Plate B cars) I just checked, and it looks like some of the dimensions were later corrected, but not all of them: 4/78 ORER 25000-25383 IW 10-8 EXH 15-4 CUFT 4960 27715-27836 IW 10-8 EXH 15-4 CUFT 4610 (still way too low cuft) -- Jim Eager *************************************************************** Jim, I went to the ORERs and see what you mean. I looked at SP's car spec sheet, dated June 1966, where SSW 25000-25383 was 50-2, 9-2, 10-8 for 4960 cuft, SSW 27715-27814 was 50-2, 9-3, 10-8 for 4610 cuft and SSW 27815-27836 was 50-2, 9-3, 10-8 for 4960. All three series showing 57-7 outside lgth. My closest ORER is October 1969 and the 27715-27814 is listed together with the 27815-27836 showing 50-1, 9-4 9-10 for 4610 cuft and 55-1 ouside lgth, not close to what the spec sheet said in 1966. The 25000s matched. In looking thru further ORERs it seems that the interior equipment changed at various times. The dimensions never quite matched the spec sheet for the 27715s. Until I got ot the July 1985 ORER, the dimensions match the spec sheet...finally. The outsde length of the 27715s even finally changed to 57-7. The 4610 figure for the cuft of the 27715s seams low from day one. I've always had trouble with ORER information on cars with interior equipment. Bill Kelly

Photo by: Charles Lange
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Roy Platt |
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Jim Eager |
5/1982 |
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Brian Ehni |
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Rob Sarberenyi |
Warm Springs (Fremont), CA; 11/2002 |
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Eric Dillinger |
Madera County, CA; 6/2006 |
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Steve Eckert |
Columbia, IL; 1986 |
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Charles Lange |
Santa Barbara, CA; 07/12/1977 |
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Brian Ehni |
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Peter J. Vincent |
Harrison Yard, NJ; 10/1979 |
SSW:
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Charles Lange |
Santa Barbara, CA; 11/22/1974 |
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Ron Hawkins |
West Colton, CA; 10/19/1985 |